WoW 2.0 Madness!

[KarlKFI]

WoW 2.0 has about 50 bajilion Interface changes. So this means a lot of addons have broken, some permanently. We've also removed addons (http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16505) that no longer had maintainers and are looking for maintainers for some others that have yet to be updated. I will compile a damages (changes) summary in the coming days.

We have been updating addons for weeks with the BC beta and PTR's. The Alpha distro for WoW 2.0 has been updated with these changes.

Those of you in the EU can use Release until you get the patch.

Once we get things running more smoothly and tested we'll push a new release.

Good luck. And have fun retallenting!

Cosmos File Mirror: http://cosmos.thzclan.com

[BeaverMon]

Deleted the Interface and WTF folders and installed Cosmos Alpha.
Ran it, and 1/4 of the addons are still incompatiable. :cry: 1 of them is, IsMounted. Which I believe isn't letting Soundtrack work, as it uses IsMounted to detect if the player is mounted to play music for when your mounted.

All I can say is... dam Blizzard! :evil: I had 50+ addons running with 1.12. No warning in the Login Screen about this 2.01 patch and what you have to do to prepare for it. Not even a thing to say "Please go to our website to get updates".

I can't explain by mere words how much hate I have for Blizzard not warning us threw the Login Screen instead of making you go to their crappy website that is slower then a snail on Tuesdays. :x

It's basically a feeling of after you formatted your computer to fix a big problem, and you remembered you backed up your stuff on CD's, but the CD's don't work anymore. All of that work and what you loved... gone. :cry:

[davidcollantes]

They said major interface changes will come and it was all common knowledge (as it happens with every major patch) that lots, if not all, of the addons would not work. Also, there is the PTR (Public Test Realms), plenty of time to see what worked or not and develop around it. It seems that very few of the developers/supporters of the Cosmos UI and other UI did very little to have the addons ready for this patch.

Of course, that sucks for all of us, peons.

[Maximara]

They said major interface changes will come and it was all common knowledge (as it happens with every major patch) that lots, if not all, of the addons would not work. Also, there is the PTR (Public Test Realms), plenty of time to see what worked or not and develop around it. It seems that very few of the developers/supporters of the Cosmos UI and other UI did very little to have the addons ready for this patch.

Of course, that sucks for all of us, peons.

Sadly this is all true. It was known for months that BC was going to break a lot of things and the patch notes for 2.0 have been up for at least two weeks if not three. Personally I think cosmos needs to seriously look at its add-ons and do some house cleaning. Some add-on have been made redundent by UI changes in previous patches and some have not seen a serious update in months.

[pabloex]

They said major interface changes will come and it was all common knowledge (as it happens with every major patch) that lots, if not all, of the addons would not work. Also, there is the PTR (Public Test Realms), plenty of time to see what worked or not and develop around it. It seems that very few of the developers/supporters of the Cosmos UI and other UI did very little to have the addons ready for this patch.

Of course, that sucks for all of us, peons.

Just keep in mind that mods come from people that give freely of their own personal time. The mod creators don't 'owe' anything to the people that use them.

If you want to direct your frustration, it should be pointed at Blizzard. To make changes to functionality that people have come to depend on for 2 years is kind of on the lame side. If the Casting and Targetting functions were so detrimental to the game, then it shouldn't have taken 2 years to fix it. If they would rather own these functions, then fine, take them back in house but don't limit the functionality that players have come to rely on. (Sorry - preaching to choir, I know.)

[jasonholland]

The most important feature to me is the all in one bag feature. I really rely on a lot of the other features but hte bag, ouch, thats painful.

I am involved in the linux community, and it is exactly like this. Developers give freely of their time and talent, they do take pride in their products. But they do have lives. And can not always work on schedules everyone would like.

Koodos to those who do, if you hear nothing else hear this. It is much appreciated. Keep up the good work :)

P.S. I can't wait till my all in one bag works again.

Thank you all again.

[snowite]

haha!! ididnt quite understand what to do to get my UI/cosmosus back but i got allmost everything even my all-in-one bag...hell ya baby...i waqs sooo upset when i saw my bags were screwd...now there unscrewed...LOLO!!! wooo hooo!! ^_~

[snowite]

The most important feature to me is the all in one bag feature. I really rely on a lot of the other features but hte bag, ouch, thats painful.

I am involved in the linux community, and it is exactly like this. Developers give freely of their time and talent, they do take pride in their products. But they do have lives. And can not always work on schedules everyone would like.

Koodos to those who do, if you hear nothing else hear this. It is much appreciated. Keep up the good work :)

P.S. I can't wait till my all in one bag works again.

Thank you all again.
>>i have my BAGS baby yeah!!! ALL-IN-ONE

[jasonholland]

What did you have to do to get your bags to work?

So far i had to add the right version number "20000" and im now getting an error about
string.gfind was changed to string.gmatch.

I have gotten the error to stop, but my bags are empty. If i disable the addon my bags are
full again :)

That was a little scare.

[Gryphon]

It seems that very few of the developers/supporters of the Cosmos UI and other UI did very little to have the addons ready for this patch.

80%+ of Cosmos works fine with 2.0. Cosmos devs have been on the PTR updating addons for weeks.

Personally I think cosmos needs to seriously look at its add-ons and do some house cleaning. Some add-on have been made redundent by UI changes in previous patches and some have not seen a serious update in months.

A ton of addons have been removed/added with this release, I hope you are deleting your old addons...



Please post specific bugs for Addons in their own thread in the bug forum, not here.

[davidcollantes]

Just keep in mind that mods come from people that give freely of their own personal time. The mod creators don't 'owe' anything to the people that use them.

If you want to direct your frustration, it should be pointed at Blizzard. To make changes to functionality that people have come to depend on for 2 years is kind of on the lame side. If the Casting and Targetting functions were so detrimental to the game, then it shouldn't have taken 2 years to fix it. If they would rather own these functions, then fine, take them back in house but don't limit the functionality that players have come to rely on. (Sorry - preaching to choir, I know.)

Mate, I just replied to the guy venting on Blizzard. As you well pointed out, the system hasn't "completely" broken in 2 years. At certain point drastic changes are needed, and that just had happened. I am not frustated at Blizzard (not becuase of the broken addons, that is), nor at the CosmosUI group. I downloaded the Alpha yesterday, wiped my Interfaces and the W* folders, and lots of the addons did not work and/or spit lots of errors. At least 6-10 addons still had the old 11200 version in it. There is *no way* those addons were even tested on PTR.

I stand on what I wrote, whether free personal time or not is involved. I believe there was plenty time to try and test things on the PTR to get the few addons that would work working, and those who doesn't separated.

[Gryphon]

There is a list of addons and why they have not been updated for 2.0 in the 2.0 forum that has been maintained for a couple of weeks.

But the fact is, it is what it is regardless of what you think should it should have been so you can accept it or not. The lecture is wasted.

[Yeslick]

I stand on what I wrote, whether free personal time or not is involved. I believe there was plenty time to try and test things on the PTR to get the few addons that would work working, and those who doesn't separated.

Well, there is one thing wrong with your complaint. You are asking for someone to do you a favor, with nothing in return. This would come under the category of "Ingrate".

If I volunteer my time, knowledge and resources, then you have a choice: Accept what they offer, when they offer it, and how they offer it, or don't. You don't HAVE to use it! And, the developer's don't HAVE to provide updates.

I suppose it is your right to complain. And, I would be wrong to try to silence you. However, you are coming off as someone who complians about things, yet offers no effort to change them. If you paid for this mod, you would be fully justified. You didn't, and you're not!

[lucyd99]

:( I am not a computer person and frankly would love to fix my problem my comos doesnt work at all and i really loved it. i updated the patches in the wow folder and guess i was to install the addons checked the addon box in wow but still nothing works some body please help me

[Yikidee]

Just keep in mind that mods come from people that give freely of their own personal time. The mod creators don't 'owe' anything to the people that use them.

If you want to direct your frustration, it should be pointed at Blizzard. To make changes to functionality that people have come to depend on for 2 years is kind of on the lame side. If the Casting and Targetting functions were so detrimental to the game, then it shouldn't have taken 2 years to fix it. If they would rather own these functions, then fine, take them back in house but don't limit the functionality that players have come to rely on. (Sorry - preaching to choir, I know.)

Mate, I just replied to the guy venting on Blizzard. As you well pointed out, the system hasn't "completely" broken in 2 years. At certain point drastic changes are needed, and that just had happened. I am not frustated at Blizzard (not becuase of the broken addons, that is), nor at the CosmosUI group. I downloaded the Alpha yesterday, wiped my Interfaces and the W* folders, and lots of the addons did not work and/or spit lots of errors. At least 6-10 addons still had the old 11200 version in it. There is *no way* those addons were even tested on PTR.

I stand on what I wrote, whether free personal time or not is involved. I believe there was plenty time to try and test things on the PTR to get the few addons that would work working, and those who doesn't separated.

Unless you are prepared to go onto the PTR yourself and report back bugs, you really don't have much of a leg to stand on with complaing about something that is provided for free.

Give some, take some. Not all take and high and might crap.

[smy]

Thank you to all the devs and maintainers for responding as quickly as you have to the new patch changes.

While it has been rough in the past, I realize the changes to the UI and indeed the very core mechanisms have been turned upside down and it will take some time to regain functionality on the packaged add-ons, if at all.

Take as much time as you need, don't read too many "posts", and again, thank you.

[Koja]

I love cosmos, a whole lot.

I updated my addons recently (alpha release i think)

and i dont know what happened but in my addon box everything is "incompatable"

so i have no all in one anything and its like im using the default interface that WoW provided which isnt making me too happy, i miss my cosmos :(

someone help me please?

[Daviesh]

Delete all your old addons, as they will be incompatible. Then grab the Alpha distro from the download page ( http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=download ). These have been updated for WoW 2.0.

[Saracen]

Gentlemen:

First, I wish to say thanks for all the effort you put into these mods, etc. as I have been using Cosmos for years. I can't believe people have the nerve to complain about everything not being perfect and ready after Blizzards very significant changes - especially since it's free!

I do have a question please. I copied my old add-on files and saved them before purging them from the WoW directory as I am hoping all my data from the old map notes and gatherer (I know you don’t supply that mod) will be able to be used.

Is that possible or will I need to start from scratch as a result of Blizzards changes?

Also, is the cosmos patcher still the way to upgrade cosmos?

Thanks much,
Saracen

[ryanx27]

Like everyone else, my pre-2.0 addon sets stopped working with the patch. So deleted my addons, and I installed the Alpha release according to the instructions, and now the AddOns button dosen't appear in my character selection screen. What gives?

[xerty]

Saracen :
Mapnotes and Gatherer info is stored in your WTF\Account\#AccountName#\SavedVariables folder.
So deleting the addons will not cause you to lose this data.

[xerty]

ryanx27 :
Did you install the addons into the World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns folder ?

[ryanx27]

ryanx27 :
Did you install the addons into the World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns folder ?

Yes. That is where they extracted.

[xerty]

That's strange.
Just make sure there are addons in that folder, in case the extraction sent them somewhere else.

[ryanx27]

That's strange.
Just make sure there are addons in that folder, in case the extraction sent them somewhere else.

Yeah, they're there. I even uninstalled WoW completely, reinstalled it, and and tried the whole process from scratch... same result.

[xerty]

Well I'm stumped - anyone else got a suggestion ?

[Jaiyna]

Well I'm stumped - anyone else got a suggestion ?

I had this happen after I let WoW auto disable a mod for me. ALL mods disapperaed and the mods button went away as well even though the mod files were under addons. I fixed this by restoring an old copy of my WTF folder which means it changed something in there. I didnt bother to find out what it had changed or where, but that fixed my issue.

[ryanx27]

I had this happen after I let WoW auto disable a mod for me. ALL mods disapperaed and the mods button went away as well even though the mod files were under addons. I fixed this by restoring an old copy of my WTF folder which means it changed something in there. I didnt bother to find out what it had changed or where, but that fixed my issue.

Well, since I've uninstalled and reinstalled WoW, I can't restore to an older version of my WTF folder. You could say I'm having a "WTF" moment... har har

Still, the fact that it's doing the same thing after a reinstall of WoW is just... weird as hell.

[Jaiyna]

I had this happen after I let WoW auto disable a mod for me. ALL mods disapperaed and the mods button went away as well even though the mod files were under addons. I fixed this by restoring an old copy of my WTF folder which means it changed something in there. I didnt bother to find out what it had changed or where, but that fixed my issue.

Well, since I've uninstalled and reinstalled WoW, I can't restore to an older version of my WTF folder. You could say I'm having a "WTF" moment... har har

Still, the fact that it's doing the same thing after a reinstall of WoW is just... weird as hell.

/comfort I always KNEW there was a reason they called it WTF :D

[ryanx27]

Hehehe... I think I can get by without the add-ons for a little while. I'm going to be building a new rig to play on in about a month, with a new HDD and a fresh install of XP and all that jazz, so I assume the problem won't follow me onto my next computer. If it does... WE ARE DEALING WITH SOME SUPERNATURAL S--T HERE. lol

[Koja]

Delete all your old addons, as they will be incompatible. Then grab the Alpha distro from the download page ( http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=download ). These have been updated for WoW 2.0.

Thank you, you are my hero,


i saw a buncha posts notifying that this was out, but i couldnt find the specific download link


Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou

[Yikidee]

Tried a couple of other UI's, but i am just too used to cosmos. Went the original blizz ui until cosmos gets the bar options up and going.

2.0 is sucking the big one so far indeed.

Ahh well, just shows how much of a good job you guys are doing. A know of about 10 people who just plain refuse to play until cosmos is up to at least the full bar options. Not oo bad though, at least 7 of them have not seen sun in about 15 months. Summer has just started, so its probabaly a good thing for them ;)

[Micus]

How about a little help for Cosmos dummies like me :roll:
I have followed instructions and cannot get this to work. I'm sure it's here somewhere but............................can some simpler instructions be posted to get Cosmos going again?
Or is it just worth the wait for a new patch?

[atdsm]

Summer has just started, so its probabaly a good thing for them ;)

Lol, have fun being warm on the south side of the world! For those of us in the USA, it's friggin cold right now...

[Daviesh]

How about a little help for Cosmos dummies like me :roll:
I have followed instructions and cannot get this to work. I'm sure it's here somewhere but............................can some simpler instructions be posted to get Cosmos going again?
Or is it just worth the wait for a new patch?

If you are using the Cosmos patcher make sure it is set to download the Alpha distro, NOT the release distro.

[chrtn]

What does it take to get some to get the castoptions addon to work again?

I really need it for the healing thing, best addon i ever had....

i'll pay :D

[ancientyne]

I've decided to end my subscription this month for good, because of the "before the storm" 2.0 update, im a level 60 warlock, 40 days of playtime, perhaps a third through the basic endgame content not including the extension content.

I thought Id write to give my two penneth worth as to why I quit over the 2.0 patch. The main reason is : One Day I was happily logging on > playing the game , the next day I get a patch to 2.0 thrown on the game in order to play, nothing too unsual, until it dawns on me that I now have lots of work, just to try and get back to the position of playing the way i did, just one day before. I investigate further I download new versions of addons, realise some key ones are not maintained any more, and many others will take months of other peoples freely given effort to make work again if at all. I realise all my macros I had written are also now defunct, the interface addon i use wont be rewritten till mid january at the earliest. I then investigate the changes to lua, and discover all the commands that have been protected, and get a bit stressed about it, then find the new replacement commands, I begin thinking everything will be fine its just a matter of time and rewriting work to get the functionality back, then I slowly perceive something more about this change which is more dramatic. regardless of the lua changes.

The really big change is theyve removed any kind of usage of conditional testing in any scenario that would be usefull in the game, they have effectivley made totally impotent one of the most fundamental precept functions of all programming the IF statement, it now, is no longer usable in combat in anyway. Weve had the use of the IF statement within lua and macros for two years, and now all of a sudden its gone and unsable in anyway thats usefull, strange compensation theyve given us /castsequence instead which seems like an extremely un-intelligent version of lockbox for all casters, something I never used, and thought blizzard would dissapprove of ?

My macros now seem unwriteable in anyway without any branching decision making they dont lighten my play thought load at all, every mob I kill from now I will have to go through even more repetitive processes than before mid combat repeated a thousand times over kill after kill, I feel theyve damaged my char, which i had more investment in than the gameplay itself. I have decided to call it quits, the game was already allot of work as it was, im not a fan of rapid button pressing games like tekken, or fps games which i think wow is becoming more like with this patch, thats why I chose caster rather than rogue in the first place, more strategy and thought and less frenetic timed processed button pushing, as im not a fast reaction time youth, a macro is nothing more than solidified chosen strategy, the loss of an "IF" or branching statement makes it not really a proper macro system at all, it makes me think they might be bringing it out on console systems or something where button pushing is the norm. I dont understand blizzards decision making in this, and nor can I be bothered to work out theyre reasoning, perhaps theyre saying nerfing the "IF" functionality in macros improves the game, well in my mind it doesnt, the previous day i was enjoying the game as normal, the next day I no longer am, to me thats not an improvement to a game, the macro language was not an exploit it was something blizzard gave to us for two years ? now theyve killed it, nerfing/tuning is the eventual death of most mmo's, 2.0 for me is the end of this game.

good luck to all , fellow players who ive enjoyed playing with, maybe ill see you again on the next big thing. merry christmas, though i feel with this 2.0 update blizzard embody more the spirit of scrooge than christmas :-)) no real IF statement use, all adons broken by default really ! :-) nice present blizz.:-)

[jgleigh]

No offense, but you are quitting because they took away the addons/macros that made all the game decisions for you and you don't enjoy playing when you actually have to control your characters actions? If you mindlessly want to cast the same spells over and over without thinking about it, then /castsequence is perfect. If you want the game to decide what spell to cast depending on buffs/debuffs/mana/health/etc then you are outta luck.

I was also initially freaked out with the changes and the protected functions are causing a lot of headaches while the bugs are worked out, but that is to be expected with mods to a basically undocumented API. While a lot of the old macros broke, some of the new ones are very nice. Lots of stuff that you couldn't do easily in macros before.

[Daviesh]

You have dramatically oversimplified the situation. For every thing we could not do before, they have given us 10 new things. For example, I wrote myself a mod yesterday to free up some action bar slots. Under the old system it would have taken me most of a day to get it up and running, but with the new secure templates I had the bare bones working in less than 15 minutes.

[xerty]

As the old saying goes - "One mans meat is another mans poison" :lol: